Admin's Name: Dr. Kane Propane Admin's SteamID: STEAM_0:1:100608835
Your Name(s):Dildodickgollum Your SteamID(s): STEAM_0:0:81172148
What Happened: I die, I guess someone blocks a door out of the ten dead people? Even though nobody really complained , but I dont think he was lying about it. Get banned for doorblocking because its a running joke that Im the one whos been doing it, since i was doing it during the People Block thing, UNTIL admins got the go ahead from Jake that it wasnt allowed. ~Even though, yknow, staff arent supposed to ban without proof because stuff like this will happen
Reason for Ban: Map exploitation, blocking doors in dm
Proof: The ten(ish) people dead at the time.
muFFlyx STEAM_0:0:41392054 Joined: Jun 24, 2015 Posted: 08-15-2016 22:47
0 proof from either side so I can't +1, but I'll still offer my reasoning on this.
Kane himself said in this thread that he would provide proof next time something like this happened.
As far as I know, there is no way to tell who is who in SpecDM unless they specifically say so, as nametags aren't displayed and console logs don't say who kills who. And if Kane was in SpecDM at the time, then it would have been impossible to know. Unless, that is, you were typing and Kane saw you put your hand up to your head in-game; somehow I doubt that this is what happened.
The following proof from Kane would be helpful here:
• logs of multiple people accusing Dildo of doorblocking (people can still talk out of their ass, though), • a video of Dildo blocking a door and typing in sync with his chat messages, • and/or anything else that might prove he was actually doorblocking.
Until any of this is provided, I sincerely doubt there's any way to pinpoint a single person as "the doorblocker" and reasonably ban him for it.
EDIT: Proof provided. Not doorblocking intentionally or when it actually mattered. +1
Joseph S. Habib STEAM_0:1:42579109 Joined: Jun 03, 2015 Posted: 08-16-2016 00:21
Doesn't matter who everyone is saying is door blocking. Kill yourself and check it out.
Delirious STEAM_0:1:80052440 Joined: Jun 04, 2015 Posted: 08-16-2016 00:25
This thread seems to be overall pathetic with no actual proof being displayed.
No point in voting on it until kane actually gives his reasoning.
People are not proof, how hard is it for people to get that through their head?
No , I didn't mean what you think, I didn't mean "just ask them", I meant that it was just as likely for it to have been any one of them since they were dead, and there was no reason to believe it was me. The proof isn't necessarily proof that I didn't do it, but it's proof that he didn't know it was me
Ace_Diamond STEAM_0:1:116005211 Joined: Mar 30, 2016 Posted: 08-16-2016 01:47
You said you were recording, where is the video?
Also you were the only dead guard and the skeleton that was blocking was green. This means it must have been you. Also when you were banned it stopped happening. Show the video.
Sponeman STEAM_0:0:78050140 Joined: Jun 07, 2015 Posted: 08-16-2016 02:59
Honestly providing proof is a two way thing like Kane has to show why he punished you while You have to provide proof pushing against it so it works like a court system you can't just say "Oh he was hacking" and ban them just the same as you can't say "I wasn't hacking" if you were.
So I think both sides should get proof and also if it was a bad enough ban like for a month then he should investigate it enough to the point he has 100% confidence in the ban and you should make sure you get some form of proof because that is honestly the only thing going against you.
ustick STEAM_0:0:51864333 Joined: Jun 03, 2015 Posted: 08-16-2016 05:50
Dildo if you were recording please show the video. As Spone said it is a two way system. For and Against being the sides. Also what Ace said about the Skelly, adds up to it was you. Doorblocking is an exploitation of the map, thus breaking rule C3. C3. Do not hack, cheat, exploit, or use any third party tools that gives you an unfair advantage against other players. Until you post your video proof of another green skelly was somehow blocking the door (good luck) you'll continue to be banned and Kane will NOT be punished.
Courtney STEAM_0:0:156219577 Joined: Aug 07, 2016 Posted: 08-16-2016 06:05
daaamnnn daniell
Delicious Trash STEAM_0:1:105808078 Joined: Dec 07, 2015 Posted: 08-16-2016 06:41
dayummm daneyulll
The Boston Bastard STEAM_0:0:82423259 Joined: Jul 13, 2016 Posted: 08-17-2016 02:32
why are u people still talking on this? His ban is pretty much over
Sponeman STEAM_0:0:78050140 Joined: Jun 07, 2015 Posted: 08-17-2016 04:30
He still has 17 days on his ban
Delicious Trash STEAM_0:1:105808078 Joined: Dec 07, 2015 Posted: 08-17-2016 04:42
oh , well thanks whoever did it. I was just about to grab the video (which i didnt care about when it was one day), but then bip linked me to dis edit: nvm still banned, idk what you meant by that. ill grab that vidya right quick
Ok, well, heres the video. when I got banned for 17 days I found it in the bandicam files.
Please dont give kane a strike for this, he saw me lagging, which I didnt realize earlier. I dont even think the lag caused doorblock since movement differs from visual lag, and delicious opened the door anyways.
The only thing is, I really dont know why it includes c11 in the reason for the new ban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2uLNvwAXY
Delicious Trash STEAM_0:1:105808078 Joined: Dec 07, 2015 Posted: 08-17-2016 07:05
Ok, well, heres the video. I was on muhhh laptop , had to get on my other laptop :DD.
Please dont give kane a strike for this, he saw me lagging, which I didnt realize earlier, and it probably completely looked like i was doorblocking.
The only thing is, I really dont know why it includes c11 in the reason for the new ban. (it could have been because I typed "stfu", at the ban message he put in chat, but I thought he was joking because he fake warned me earlier)
The Boston Bastard STEAM_0:0:82423259 Joined: Jul 13, 2016 Posted: 08-17-2016 08:16
yeah i was just looking for the guy that shot me during the lag. and got him. then ran away
Dr. Kane Propane STEAM_0:1:100608835 Joined: Feb 19, 2016 Posted: 08-17-2016 20:06
Yeah you kinda put the nail in your own coffin with your video proof. Lag or no, you doorblocked twice from my perspective. The ban time that I placed on you is up by this point. If there is extended time placed on your sentence, it did not come from me. In the future, please make sure you are up to date with the ever-changing rules of the server. Sorry for any confusion guys.
Delicious Trash STEAM_0:1:105808078 Joined: Dec 07, 2015 Posted: 08-17-2016 21:28
First time: lagged Second time: he was passing through and got attacked so he was defending himself while inside the door Lol
So if what happened isn't allowed then I guess we're gonna have to ban a shit ton of people...
i know what am i missing here? lol, like, i literally didnt doorblock at all, not even when i lagged either. its clientside which is why they were able to open it before i died
ustick STEAM_0:0:51864333 Joined: Jun 03, 2015 Posted: 08-17-2016 22:17
Doesn't matter. You still doorblocked twice. What if someone tried rebelling and low and behold, you were in the door? Ban will remain til time out. Thread closed.